ext_97971 ([identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-04-26 09:34 pm
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Rise of the Pedaltarian

The bicycle is superior to the motor-car. Healthier for people and the environment.

We should invest in bicycle culture.

Human power should be a major source of renewable energy that we look into.

[identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people are unable to ride those scooters. Imagine if you were in a car accident tomorrow. Can't move your legs. Can you ride a scooter? That scooter might be a good solution for a person with rheumatoid arthritis, but not cerebral palsy. And when you have a completely disabled person in the family, you often need an actual car to transport that person, even if you're able-bodied yourself. Bikes with sidecars are a nice idea, but not always practical.

I thoroughly agree that MORE people need to bike. Able-bodied people in the USA are often (but NOT always) lazy as hell, and can't comprehend moving under their own power. Often, they BECOME disabled because of their own laziness! I've seen it!

I think that in addition to encouraging bike use, we need to have accessible public transportation available. The city where I live now has HORRIBLE public transportation. People avoid it at all costs. However, when I lived in Boston, everyone rode public transit. Or biked. Or walked. I owned a car, but only used it when I needed to travel out of the city to places that had no public transportation. In the city, I walked or took public transit.

I'd love to change transportation culture in this country, believe me. People where I live now don't know how to handle pedestrians and bikers sharing the road. I walk to work, even now, and I've almost been hit in intersections when I had the right of way.

[identity profile] peamasii.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Those vehicles are small electric two seaters. I just meant that they share the bike lanes with scooters. But yeah, I agree with you about all that! I lived in L.A. and in Boston, and Boston has pretty good public transit. But as a drawback in Boston a lot of newer companies are out of the city center and you have to drive out. Still, if you're going into the city it's fine on the T... L.A. on the other has horrible buses that are dirty, stink and it's often dangerous to ride in them. You have to drive everywhere, I remember that driving to work cost me at the time more than two tanks of gas every WEEK. Jeezus, what a waste...

I also agree that walking is important too. Half an hour a day or more of walking is excellent for mind and body. I just prefer it to live in a city where people walk and bike a lot, it's friendlier, you see more faces, you can meet people easier and have more possibilities of enjoying life. An auto takes away most of that. I do rent a car once in a while when we need to go somewhere far over the weekend or if we need to shop for some big things. Not owning a car has been a great relief though living in Amsterdam it's very unpractical to own a car.

[identity profile] allhatnocattle.livejournal.com 2010-04-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I havn't owned a car since 2000, and this isn't bike friendly city. But I collect scooters. Too many bicycle thieves and dangerous not to keep up to speed of traffic. Have to do the most with the least.