ext_99734 ([identity profile] 3fgburner.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2010-04-20 12:32 pm
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Second Amendment March

Greetings, all -- I was at the March, yesterday. That is, I was at the real one on the Mall, not the spinoff across the river.  A week or two ago, in a discussion of Tea Partiers, I had a brief dialogue with [livejournal.com profile] squidb0i  about the 2A March. He said that in the absence of credible threats to gun rights, the 2A March was simply a front for "teabaggers".

With that in mind, I kept a conscious eye out for TEA Party type signs, pamphlets, handouts, etc.  Attendance was in the high hundreds, maybe over a thousand. I wandered around and saw most of the crowd at one time or another. There were 2-3, maybe 4 signs that could be interpreted as TEA Party related.  There was one sign for the John Birch Society, back in the back. There was one religious nutjob, and a couple of Third Way whackos. That's it, out of a LOT of people. Everybody else there was attending to promote gun rights.  

There was a certain amount of mockery directed at outfits like the SPLC, mostly by people like Nicky Stallard of the Pink Pistols, and Kenn Blanchard aka Black Man With A Gun(tm).  The SPLC had apparently labeled a number of the organizations there as "hate groups", including Oathkeepers.  Nicky pointed out that it was pretty stupid to call 2A advocates racists or homophobes, considering that she and Kenn were speaking.  All in all, a good time was had by those attending, and I got to see and meet some of the icons of the gun rights movement.  I even got to give Dick Heller one of my empty-holster flags: an L-shaped piece of red posterboard, with a sticker showing the DC flag and "Disarmament Without Protection". He was amused.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Today I woke up at 7:45. I stretched in bed for 15 minutes (I usually stretch for 20 but today I felt fresher). Then I stood up and washed my teeth. My wife was still opening her left eye (or was it the right?) when I was ready with the coffee and breakfast. I brought it to her and she said "Thanks!" Then I watched some news on the TV while filling out the SuDoKu in the newspaper. And then I briefly saw the Tea Party rally on the TV. I thought to myself: "I'm going to switch to another program. I've watched this already. Besides, I'm sure there'll be at least one guy by the end of the day to spread the word about the super significant 'news' about the rally on LJ, turning TP into a hybrid between a newsreel and a personal blog."

I'm going to spare you the details about my day. When I got back home (18:30) I put my jacket on the hanger, then went to have a bath. My wife had already got back too, and she was cooking the dinner. When I came out, we had dinner. Salmon with some salads and a little wine. It's good. I switched the TV on. I remembered that I had seen something about the Tea Party rally, so I switched to CNN again (it's the only US program we're getting here). They did mention something about the rally. So I remembered that I had made a bet with myself about whether some guy would turn the forum into a hybrid between a newsreel and his personal diary. I checked the forum. And - BAM! - here it was! I saw this post.

Well done!

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehehe :)

Did you win the bet with yourself?

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Your point escapes me.

[identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
it is possible to have racist beliefs and/or engage in covertly racist behavior while still having black friends fyi

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I always win those.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
We're doomed...

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to have an anti-lizardmen government takeover protest. I think it'll do a lot of good.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha.

And...?

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
What rights have been abridged and what rights are being threatened currently? Barring the ruling in DC which, wasn't that repealed already, exactly what threats are there in the US to the current status quo? What elected official anywhere has said even the first thing about anything having anything to do with gun rights?

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
And my point is that, had you written this in your OP, I'd have spared you my silly questions.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't yesterday the anniversary of Waco/Muriah Federal Building bombing?

[identity profile] sgiffy.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
While I have a gun and am reasonably supportive of gun rights, the paranoia from "2A Advocates" borders on the silly. I have heard next to nothing from anyone aside from some random members of congress about anything approaching a massive or even minor curtailment of gun rights. Even somewhat reasonable restrictions, like on assault weapons, or requirements for licensing/training/registration have fallen by the way side.

Might as well have a rally about third amendment rights.

[identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Only 1,000 people? That isn't a protest, in DC that's nothing more than a yard sale.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know those things, thanks.

[identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
False sense of persecution over a wedge issue: check. If it walks like a duck.

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly I agree, that's ridiculous and usury. I dunno if I'd call it a threat to the 2nd Amendment however.

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree with your licensing point; I think people should be required to pass a test of basic questions and answers before being allowed to do anything nominally dangerous like perform surgery, drive a car or own a firearm. Crap, man, you gotta get a license to throw a fishing line in the water.

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
And registration! If the cops are confiscating a lot of guns from a particular drug ring and they notice those guns all happen to be registered to the same guy, they've got your address and they can come and ask you why. I don't see a darned thing wrong with that.

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