Yep. When you say one thing among people you know will agree with you, and the opposite among those who don't, it reveals a lot about your lack of good faith.
bdj: That your examples demonstrate the rarity is the evidence I have.
They are "rare" only in that they are outside the norm in the sense that most crime is outside the norm. I once lived on a street that had a series of break-ins over the course of three months. The fact that most of the houses were NOT broken in to did not make this crime wave any less worrisome to those of us who lived there.
You know, Jeff, I'm seriously beginning to doubt the good faith of some right wingers when they argue in the manner many do here. If people who use such "debating" tactics truly approached language and logic they way they do in these discussions, they would be unable to navigate daily life, communicate with their neighbors, their co-workers etc..
And yet, I don't get the sense that the people who argue as though life were some vast game of Sims 3 were writing from the group homes or institutions they'd require if they honestly looked at reality that way.
No, I suspect the "arguments" of at least some of these folks are not actual agruments so much as alibi-ing for beliefs and agendas they know would be too unpalatable to most people. It's akin to the rationale behind the Open-Carry movement, which, judging from Vanderboegh's comments, is about "normalizing" the carrying of guns only to the extent of lowering the guard of the people they want to shoot.
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Most recently in Las Vegas.
bdj: If we are, why aren't they acting?
They are.
bdj: They talk! OMG!
Yep. When you say one thing among people you know will agree with you, and the opposite among those who don't, it reveals a lot about your lack of good faith.
bdj: That your examples demonstrate the rarity is the evidence I have.
They are "rare" only in that they are outside the norm in the sense that most crime is outside the norm. I once lived on a street that had a series of break-ins over the course of three months. The fact that most of the houses were NOT broken in to did not make this crime wave any less worrisome to those of us who lived there.
You know, Jeff, I'm seriously beginning to doubt the good faith of some right wingers when they argue in the manner many do here. If people who use such "debating" tactics truly approached language and logic they way they do in these discussions, they would be unable to navigate daily life, communicate with their neighbors, their co-workers etc..
And yet, I don't get the sense that the people who argue as though life were some vast game of Sims 3 were writing from the group homes or institutions they'd require if they honestly looked at reality that way.
No, I suspect the "arguments" of at least some of these folks are not actual agruments so much as alibi-ing for beliefs and agendas they know would be too unpalatable to most people. It's akin to the rationale behind the Open-Carry movement, which, judging from Vanderboegh's comments, is about "normalizing" the carrying of guns only to the extent of lowering the guard of the people they want to shoot.