ext_36450 ([identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2009-08-13 02:55 pm
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This is when you know reform is needed:

The Economist praises the Swedish health care system over the American on issues of incentives.

Article linked here:

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13899647

Also....an image worth keeping in mind for defenders of the broken system:



Now, there's something wrong with this picture. See if you can tell me what it is.....

X-posted from my own LJ.
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[personal profile] weswilson 2009-08-13 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The only overwhelmingly part is how badly Americans rate their system compared to how other countries rate theirs.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136990,00.html

I don't think I ever argued that our cancer survival rates weren't high, but I did argue that while we are high in some areas, we are low in others. We have COMPARABLE care.

Do you have some source for the other metrics you present?

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
The Commonwealth Fund has been a single-payer proponent for ages, I highly, highly suspect their results.

I don't think I ever argued that our cancer survival rates weren't high, but I did argue that while we are high in some areas, we are low in others. We have COMPARABLE care.

And I think comparable, again, is unfair based on the the inconsistencies in measurements.

What metrics are you referring to?
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[personal profile] weswilson 2009-08-13 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Jeff... do I have to relink everything? You are aware this is part of a thread, right? Please be considerate and read it.

I haven't stated we have the worst. I've stated that every study I've read has found we have comparable service. I linked three above. As for the commonwealth results, perhaps some other poll will suffice:
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/8/1/149.pdf