ext_36450 ([identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2009-08-13 02:55 pm
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This is when you know reform is needed:

The Economist praises the Swedish health care system over the American on issues of incentives.

Article linked here:

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13899647

Also....an image worth keeping in mind for defenders of the broken system:



Now, there's something wrong with this picture. See if you can tell me what it is.....

X-posted from my own LJ.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
BUT NOT VERY GOOD CARE

[identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you consider "good care"?

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
comprehensive systematic medical care, including real well visits (not just cheating the ER), prescription coverage, dental coverage, etc, etc, etc, at a price that doesn't crush the american dream.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, so we've succeeded already. Good.

Why the clamoring for an overhaul, then?

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
cute, but untrue. We have not succeeded already. But you know that, and you don't give a shit.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I do give a shit. I just don't see the value in blowing up a system that generally works when we can actually fix it.

[identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Had that in USSR, still trying to recover.

[identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you given me a physical?

[identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Picture this:

I enact a scene from SAW with you as my victim. I place you in a room with food on a table...but you can't reach it because your leg is chained to the wall. Several days go by and you feel sick and hungry.

There is a saw next to you -- you'll have to remove a foot if you want to reach what I'm offering.

By *your* logic, I could turn around and say: "Hey...food was AVAILABLE. Sure he had to lose a foot to reach it, but it was THERE! He COULD reach it if he wanted it bad enough".