ext_97971 ([identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2014-01-18 05:59 pm
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Journalism, Cuomo and reality

I'm gonna go ahead and do a little crowd-sourcing for my info!

I recently watched a TED-talk about how there is no such thing as objective journalism. (source) He discusses how the history of journalism and how it's always been about selling the most papers and making that money and who gives a fuck if it's true!

Well, OK. So after I watched that, I went ahead and browsed some news headlines. I saw one that caught my eye, primarily, cause it seemed very much at odds with what I would expect. Here's the headline:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo says gun-loving pro-lifers not welcome in New York, right explodes

As a NYer, this seemed very very odd. Gov Cuomo is a pretty shrewd politician and this year he is up for re-election. It's a not private secret that Cuomo might eye the 2016 nod for President, so he totally wants to be a sitting Gov for that--looks better to the voters and all.

So why the hell would Cuomo alienate two big voting blocks in an election year? NYC might be super-liberal, but upstate NY is kinda rednecky. They love their guns and lotta folks hate on abortion. So what gives Herr Gov?

Well, as I read the article (found here source ) it seemed odder and odder, but I mean, it's possible he said such things. So I go ahead and click on the video link that you will see on that website. It's not actually video, just a still picture while some audio plays. This is unfortunate. I must admit here I have not heard Gov. Cuomo make many speeches. None in person and only bits here and there from his State of the State or whatnot. But as I listened to the embeded audio I became more and more skeptical that this voice was the voice of Andrew Cuomo. (The article already lost some credibility when in the first line it said his name was "Gov. Chris Cuomo")

I'm about ready to reject the entire so-called news story. I don't want to believe that they made the entire thing up--but I really don't see much choice. I went and found a video with audio of Cuomo talking (I do know what the guy looks like!) and the voice and cadence don't seem to mesh with the voice of the fellow who is alienating pro-life, pro-gun voters.


I am willing to be wrong.
A) Do any of you think that Cuomo did make such comments? Why?
B) If Cuomo did make such comments, I gotta lose some respect for his political prowess (not that he's my favorite politician, but I did at least think he knew what he was doing, even if I didn't like what he was doing) cause it seems really dumb to make those sorts of statements in an election year. Do any of you see his comments in a different light?
C) Objective journalism might not exist; but we can all agree that news isn't news if its totally false, right? Then it's just fiction? And while journalism may be heavily editorialized it should at least have some grounding in fact, otherwise, it's like Glenn Beck's chalkboard--worthless.

[identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com 2014-01-19 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
"It's a little different than saying some people, like pro-lifers, "they have no place in the state of New York"

Well, like I mentioned above, I see a bit of a difference between "pro-lifers" and those whom Cuomo labeled "right to lifers". The latter seem like the militant let's-picket-a-clinic type, while the former believe abortion is wrong but aren't militant about it.

Perhaps that is a difference most people don't see?

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2014-01-19 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Nate Silver gave a lot of analysis about New York state (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/new-york-not-as-blue-as-it-could-be/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0)and how the numbers work, while Cuomo isn't going to write off an entire party or area, he's not particularly stupid when he knows he has overwhelming numbers (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=1983), and there is tremendous support for that new gun control law.

November 26, 2013 - New York's Cuomo Opens Election Year With A Roar, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; 2-1 Approval And Huge Lead Over Unknown Contender Andrew Cuomo, who saw his job approval rating drop in Quinnipiac University polls in the first six months of the year, opens his reelection bid with a 62 - 25 percent approval rating today.

Edited 2014-01-19 03:34 (UTC)