s: You see, I saw this shit coming back in 2010 and posted about it. (thus starting my feud with Paft) I'm just a white-trash stretcher-monkey. If Democrats are so much smarter and more moral than the general population how did something that was so obvious to an uneducated scruff such as myself would slip past them?

Sigh.

Okay, sandwichwarrior, what are you talking about? What discussion between us do you have in mind?