ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics 2013-05-09 03:37 pm (UTC)

v: Ugh, there are so many obvious disagreements to this, its hard to think of which ones to list. Not specifically related to racist law enforcement, which still continues as I'm sure you know, but to the fact that countless times "feds" have overstepped their boundaries and abused and bullied (and murdered) their way through people. Waco disagrees with you. Ruby Ridge disagrees with you. Hell, Ninja Kid disagrees with you. This guy too.

Yep. Like every institution, government and law enforcement have their flaws. Having neither, however, is worse.

The reality of the south is that, until the feds stepped in, black southerners could be beaten, killed, prevented from voting, even enslaved with impunity. And I'm not talking about slave days. I'm talking decades after the Emancipation Proclamation. Yes, racism remains a problem in the south, in both government and law enforcement, but any black southerner who remembers what it was like before the Feds "interfered" with that pesky Civil Rights Act is going to be pretty emphatic about the difference between then and now.

v: If someone or a group has the kind of power to prevent people from moving around, create "separate local fiefdoms controlled by local strongmen" (showing ignorance of how and why exactly the feudal system operated as opposed to the far more egalitarian native situations in some other, very long-lived, tribal locales), then that is not what I am describing, as what I am describing is without such unequal concentrations of power.

In a society with a proliferation of weapons and no law enforcement, how would such unequal concentrations of power be prevented?







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