ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics 2012-10-20 08:29 pm (UTC)

Paft: So you've shifted from pretending that bosses aren't more powerful than their employees
v : Have you eve been one?

Nope, but my father has, and I know a good many employers. They might disagree with me on some political issues, but they don't go so far as to pretend that their employees are on an equal footing with them when it comes to power in the workplace.

PFT: Used to hear the same from a Soviet apologist back in the '80s. All those silly dissidents had the "choice" of keeping their mouths shut. They had only themselves to blame if they ended up in a gulag.
v: I strongly suggest you to read these dissidents, there are plenty translated. They knew EXACTLY what they face and what may happen.

I have read them. Hell, I was reading Solzhenitsyn back when Harpers was excerpting his chapters on torture. Don't remember Solzhenitsyn or any of the other dissidents using the fact that Soviet repression was predictable as absolution for Soviet officials.

Frankly, I have to wonder about your notion of political freedom, since you apparently consider coercion no big deal. Perhaps you're one of those who considers Pinochet's torturing, mass-murdering Chile more free than Allende's non-torturing, non-mass-murdering Chile because Pinochet was a free market right winger and Allende was a leftist.

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