ext_284991 ([identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-05-02 03:18 pm
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5 Ways to Spot a B.S. Political Story in Under 10 Seconds

5 Ways to Spot a B.S. Political Story in Under 10 Seconds

It appears that even some of our esteemed colleagues from this above-average forum have fallen prey to the tactics described in the linked article. I hope that you can look at yourselves honestly and analyze whether you have succumbed to the lure of popular media and team politics or not. No one can tell you whether you are in the pool with the rest of them, but take some time somewhere along the way and be a little introspective about why you think the way you do and where your opinions are coming from. And keep in mind that the media is not your friend.

Partisan politics is not just a function of certain groups. The media keeps the game going too, mainly to keep the feelings of anger and offense going so that they can make money. (There's some secondary reasons too, of course.) So, is the solution to fix the media or to fix the consumers? Fixing the media isn't likely to happen, as they are just responding to how people work. Fixing the consumers isn't likely to happen as people generally aren't introspective and aren't aware that they are being manipulated, but that is where I do try to put some effort into waking people up (even those who are aware that they aren't aware and don't care to change). Or do you have a third option?

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
This. (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1437825.html?thread=115075457#t115075457)

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha. Well, first thanks for self-reporting. Second, please don't do that again, Mmmkay?

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I apologise to all the mods for my behaviour unreservedly.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that, but I don't think it's the mods who needs your apology, if there should be any at all.

[identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
:-((

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Surely that was unexpected...

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Had a bad night and am cranky.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't excuse it, so I will now retire to deal with my private shame.

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And don't call me Shirley.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, snap!

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I posted this separately but find it is more appropriate here.

I find I owe you an apology. And given that it should be public, I am doing it in public.

Mea culpa. No: mea maxima culpa.

Sometimes, the tone of a post or an argument can rankle more than the content. You are correct in that we all should look at our levels of partisanship, especially now, in an election year, when people are more polarised than ever. The appearance of lofty condescension in his previous post may not have been intentional. And I am hardly one to speak in tones other than those of lofty condescension: so my hypocrisy is doubly unbearable. Form, content, and meaning, are often mistaken one for the other, and that I should be guilty of such error is shameful.

However, [livejournal.com profile] jerseycajun hit the nail on the head rather in his comments to you. Would that I had done the same.

My mistake.

I shall leave the weregild due for you to decide upon.

J9F.

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a good guy. I want to be like you when I grow up...

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Good enough for me.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You are generous.

I wish I had shown the same generosity.