ext_92519 ([identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics 2012-04-10 03:48 pm (UTC)

Harm for morality

The question is, how is morality harmed? By which rubric do we declare homosexuality any more or less "moral" than heterosexuality, instead of merely a natural minority variation in the population?

family values

Whose family? The majority of families that are made of up of heterosexual partners and their children are not affected in any way by the existance of homosexuality, so I'm not sure how they are being harmed. Homosexuals, on the other hand, are often forbidden from participating in family units in an equal way, so they are being harmed, but that harm is caused by discrimination AGAINST homosexuality, not homosexuality itself.

health

What health? Mental? That's long since been debunked, despite the mental anguish piled on gay teens in many parts of the U.S. by peers who are enabled by the sanctioned silence (and sometimes participation) of the teachers ostensibly there to protect them. The continued refrain of "harm" is the justification for these abuses up to, and including, murder. Or are you talking about infectious diseases? Does the low incidence of these diseases among the lesbian population imply that lesbianism is then, in contrast, "harmless"?

religion

Here's a point I'll agree on, partly. Yes, it's harmful to religion, at least extremist religion. And good riddance. The more people wake up and realize that iron age mythologies have no useful bearing on the conduct of our lives, the better. The growing acceptance of homosexuality didn't cause this, and is in fact partly a result of that, but it's also now an instigator of it, as people see the behavior of those who'd use those mythologies to continue justify atrocities, and rightly shy away from them. As religious extremists continue to move further and further from the mainstream in their attempts to bolster their crumbling castles, the vileness of their offerings becomes more and more apparent to reasonable people. As moderate believers are forced to admit that they were wrong, they might salvage something of their systems from the extremists, though I'm sure those extremists will continue to howl that they remain the only true Scotsmen in the building.

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