Honestly: the minimum wage does need to go up

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

This post got me thinking.

I am firmly in favor of:

A) A higher minimum wage in the whole US, and my home state of NY
B) Honesty in politics

While the OP I linked to is not exactly dishonest, it's not exactly honest either.
And this is not to put flak upon the poster there, but it's an example of political rhetoric that is used to leverage one side of a conversation, ignoring nuance.

the graphic in the linked to OP:

1) Doesn't seem to take into account state laws that raise min wage over fed laws
2) Doesn't take into account the vast difference in housing throughout a state

My objection is more with 2 than 1. 1 is easy to take care of, but 2 is not easy.

New York City is WAYYYY more expensive than Rochester or Buffalo, NY; or a large number of other places within the state I could name. Yet, this graphic gives us a number, presumably an average. But that average is way skewed. But how else should they do it? Give us on graphic for NYC and another for the rest of NY State? That wouldn't work either, because then you'd need to break it down for other cities and so on. So what do we do?

We must talk about things in the big picture without getting bogged down in details, otherwise we will have to talk for eons before we can understand what needs to be done. So while I agree that the min wage needs to go up, across the US, I have a problem with the info-graphics created to support that argument. They lack nuance, and as such, are deceiving. Even if they don't mean to be, and are honestly doing the best they can to compile and sort the data, the inevitability of misleading data is going to doom us all.

That said.
Happy saint patty's day.
Was I drunk when I wrote this? You decide.

Comments

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Slaves wages can only be paid to someone who's a slave.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

It's an idiom which I'm sure you know full well, but prefer to pretend that you don't.

[kylinrouge.livejournal.com]

Someone should tell him to correct his misstatements for the record.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

It's an idiom that's ignorant and stupid, and that I'm consciously fighting against.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

You're not fighting against it, you pretended that you don't know what it means.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

You're doing a lot of assuming the last few days...

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

Citation needed, or bullshit.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Your grilling me elsewhere about not being sincere, your assuming that I'm pretending I don't know this is an idiom? I'll do the same and assume someone hasn't taken over your account until this very moment.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

It's not elsewhere. It's here. And I'm not grilling you. You know it's an idiom. And yes, I've been reading that other sub-thread and enjoying it very much, but I have no intention to go into that.

I don't know if you're sincere and unlike Luz (probably), I don't really care. You can be insincere all you want. But at least don't derail debates by taking disingenuous positions.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

It's Monday morning, my apologies.

I'm not taking a disingenuous position her,e I'm sorry you feel that way.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

No problem. See you around!