ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-03-14 11:33 am

The Right Wing's Idea of "Freedom"



From Statepress:

Arizona House Bill 2625, authored by Majority Whip Debbie Lesko, R-Glendale, would permit employers to ask their employees for proof of medical prescription if they seek contraceptives for non-reproductive purposes, such as hormone control or acne treatment.


‘I believe we live in America. We don’t live in the Soviet Union,’ Lesko said. ‘So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom and pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs.’


Jezebel points out that Arizona is an “at will” state. This means that bosses in Arizona will be able to fire women for being depraved enough to take birth control pills to prevent pregnancy.

As we all know, what made the Soviet Union infamous were not the gulags, its treatment of dissidents, and the rigid control over the press, but the fact that women could take pills for the purpose of contraception without fear of losing their jobs over it.

Yes, here it is -- the right wing's idea of "freedom" is a society where a woman has to ask her boss' permission to use oral contraceptives.

Does anyone else find this more than a little weird?

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see a difference between central planning and central planning, no. That you're focused on results is your issue, and not my claim.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously, as you have no idea what Central Planning is, or what you're talking about.

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
You just need to put on your 'lack of nuance' glasses. They're both a plan... by the government!

In a libertarian system there are less laws, that's why we had a libertarian system 150 years ago! There were less laws, then!

Don't forget the circular arguments! The free market, if put into place, would determine the fair price of goods because the free market would determine it!

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I just find it hilarious that if he'd made this argument in the actual Soviet Union of collectivization the NVKD would have summarily had him shot after working him to death in the Gulag as a social deviationist. FDR's USA would have just put him in with the America Firster Crowd and listened to him up to 6 December 1941.

[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Why are libertarians incapable of nuance? The AAA is the same as the Soviet collectivization, because they're both central planning!

Income tax is the same as theft because in both cases something is being taken away from you!

Abortion is the same murder because in both cases you're taking a human life!

Someone buying all of the land around the town and not letting people cross it (not letting people leave their town) is the same as handcuffs!

World War II is the same as World War I because countries were fighting each other!

I agree jeff, this underlankers guy is obviously full of it. FDR = Stalin because they were both men, after all. Is he trying to deny that FDR was man? Honestly.