ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2012-03-14 11:33 am

The Right Wing's Idea of "Freedom"



From Statepress:

Arizona House Bill 2625, authored by Majority Whip Debbie Lesko, R-Glendale, would permit employers to ask their employees for proof of medical prescription if they seek contraceptives for non-reproductive purposes, such as hormone control or acne treatment.


‘I believe we live in America. We don’t live in the Soviet Union,’ Lesko said. ‘So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom and pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs.’


Jezebel points out that Arizona is an “at will” state. This means that bosses in Arizona will be able to fire women for being depraved enough to take birth control pills to prevent pregnancy.

As we all know, what made the Soviet Union infamous were not the gulags, its treatment of dissidents, and the rigid control over the press, but the fact that women could take pills for the purpose of contraception without fear of losing their jobs over it.

Yes, here it is -- the right wing's idea of "freedom" is a society where a woman has to ask her boss' permission to use oral contraceptives.

Does anyone else find this more than a little weird?

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2012-03-15 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
If we're relying on anecdotes, my wife was born while her mother was on the pill, and used a condom, and something else (I know she claims 3 types of birth control were used).

I've used condoms for 20 years and never had a pregnancy.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,366741,00.html
1-2 percent get pregnant on the pill with perfect usage.

http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/explanation-condom-failure-rates
2-3 percent get pregnant with condoms with perfect usage.
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[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That isn't the case.

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't consider 1-2 percent failure to be "far more reliable" than 2-3 percent failure.

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yea, but I consider 20 to be lower than 5,000.

Maybe you should deal with the numbers that are real and not the numbers you decide sound good,.

[identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean the statistics you claim.

The person who cited failure rates was gunslinger.

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2012-03-19 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but those aren't the real numbers.