No, this is you being the pretentious coward who doesn't have the spine to admit what you said. This is the exact thread where you made the "FDR is Stalin" claim”. To refresh your memory and see what lies come out about these posts, this is you and me, me in bold, you in italics.
I'm saying that Left wing politics as defined economically do not and never have existed in the United States.
FDR would like a word.
You mean the son of a patrician family who did everything he did to save capitalism and stave off Commie or Fascie revolution?
I mean the guy who's ideas were so far left that even Mussolini is said to have noted: “You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal!” Erm....I don't know what timeline you're posting that from, but fascism rose from the Freikorps, not the KPD, and spent much of its time destroying Communists and conservatives with a merry abandon. It's outside the Left-Right dichotomy altogether, which is not surprising, as Left-Right dates to the late 18th Century.
Sigh. That doesn't even come close to meaning anything.
It is this that led me to ask you this: And just to be clear-is this stating that FDR and the New Deal was Stalinist, meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up, a secret police empowered to murder its way through everything it wanted to, a gigantic set of slave-labor camps that were the biggest employer in the system, and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas. You are saying that this was the FDR Administration, am I correct?
To which you responded in the following fashion:
Pretty much. The only parts that aren't 100% accurate are the secret police and the slave-labor camps. I'm not sure the internment camps actually involved slave labor.
One more time-you are saying that FDR and Josef Stalin's leadership of the USA and USSR, respectively, were exactly the same?
To which you said this:
Not exactly, but more similar than you're willing to admit.
Now, a repeat. I said this:
And just to be clear-is this stating that FDR and the New Deal was Stalinist, meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up, a secret police empowered to murder its way through everything it wanted to, a gigantic set of slave-labor camps that were the biggest employer in the system, and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas. You are saying that this was the FDR Administration, am I correct?
And the only response you gave was this:
Pretty much. The only parts that aren't 100% accurate are the secret police and the slave-labor camps. I'm not sure the internment camps actually involved slave labor.
Now, when you said the only parts that weren't 100% accurate were the secret police and slave labor camps, let me repeat everything in bold you said was 100% accurate:
meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas.
When you tell the truth, physician, then you can tell me to be honest. Otherwise, people will keep returning to their lies like a dog returns to its sick.
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I'm saying that Left wing politics as defined economically do not and never have existed in the United States.
FDR would like a word.
You mean the son of a patrician family who did everything he did to save capitalism and stave off Commie or Fascie revolution?
I mean the guy who's ideas were so far left that even Mussolini is said to have noted: “You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal!”
Erm....I don't know what timeline you're posting that from, but fascism rose from the Freikorps, not the KPD, and spent much of its time destroying Communists and conservatives with a merry abandon. It's outside the Left-Right dichotomy altogether, which is not surprising, as Left-Right dates to the late 18th Century.
Sigh. That doesn't even come close to meaning anything.
It is this that led me to ask you this:
And just to be clear-is this stating that FDR and the New Deal was Stalinist, meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up, a secret police empowered to murder its way through everything it wanted to, a gigantic set of slave-labor camps that were the biggest employer in the system, and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas. You are saying that this was the FDR Administration, am I correct?
To which you responded in the following fashion:
Pretty much. The only parts that aren't 100% accurate are the secret police and the slave-labor camps. I'm not sure the internment camps actually involved slave labor.
One more time-you are saying that FDR and Josef Stalin's leadership of the USA and USSR, respectively, were exactly the same?
To which you said this:
Not exactly, but more similar than you're willing to admit.
Now, a repeat. I said this:
And just to be clear-is this stating that FDR and the New Deal was Stalinist, meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up, a secret police empowered to murder its way through everything it wanted to, a gigantic set of slave-labor camps that were the biggest employer in the system, and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas. You are saying that this was the FDR Administration, am I correct?
And the only response you gave was this:
Pretty much. The only parts that aren't 100% accurate are the secret police and the slave-labor camps. I'm not sure the internment camps actually involved slave labor.
Now, when you said the only parts that weren't 100% accurate were the secret police and slave labor camps, let me repeat everything in bold you said was 100% accurate:
meaning the forcible collectivization of US farms, a massive military build-up and a system of centralized economic planning with mandated state quotas, and NKVD-led enforcement of said quotas.
When you tell the truth, physician, then you can tell me to be honest. Otherwise, people will keep returning to their lies like a dog returns to its sick.