Hamas Admits to Using Human Shields

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

Alright, just found out about this video from a friend of mine [edit], and I wanted your reactions to it.

Watch on YouTube

[EDIT]

Since mijopo complained of a lack of commentary, I will indulge him/her/it.

I find Hamas nothing more than a brutal terrorist group; I don't find the fact they've been using human shields particularly shocking (one would have to expect that from terrorists). Rather, their blatant pride at admitting the fact is a bit more shocking, if they want good press that is. I also find it shocking that they are still obtaining better press than Israel.

I think they should be dealt with as any terrorist group would be dealt with; they should be found out and exterminated. They pose a serious threat to not only Israel, but other nations and people as well. The fact that they are using human shields should not endear people to them; rather, it should shock and repulse people. They stated that they are willing to sacrifice their own in order to wipe out Israel; that makes me rather frightened for anyone in their sights.

Voltaire warned against fanaticism, and this is fanaticisnm at its finest; they are so extreme that they would willingly have their civilians slaughtered.

I do hope that was up to your exacting standards, mijopo.

[EDIT]

Apologies to all for excessive commenting on my part; I have the genes my father gave me, and that includes a big @#$%ing mouth.

I especially apologize to uberarcanist for being a nit-picky slack-jawed junkslut.

Comments

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

"Thoroughly justified"?

So, putting up other people in the line of fire is justified, in your opinion, for this terrorist group?

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

If people want to do it, yes.

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

So let's say that children and mentally disabled people, here, in the US, wanted to sign up as flesh shields for the soldiers fighting in the Middle East. It would be okay?

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

Obviously legitimate free choices is restricted mental adults. But this is so trivial it shouldn't need to be stated.

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

You meant "are restricted to mentally healthy adults", correct?

But they're using children as well.

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

Who's "they"? Are Hamas forcing children to act as human shields?

Or is that something that the IDF seem to be more expert at?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/israel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3650791.stm

If you're complaining that some Palestinian parents shouldn't let their children play "let's throw stones at the IDF" on the grounds that it's too dangerous you possibly have a point. But they're hardly in a situation to have a Department of Child Welfare to discuss 'responsible parenting'.

The IDF on the other hand has no excuse whatsoever in their forced use of Palestinian children as human shields.

I certainly hope you are able to put aside your evidently partisan position on the Israel-Palestine conflict and apply your moral principles with equanimity.

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

Hamas clearly stated that they were using children in their human shields.

I'm complaining that:

a.) children are part of the human shield

b.) that anyone would throw away lives like that.

I'm not the one with a partisan [edit] position.

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

And if it's "okay" for Hamas to put the women, children, and the elderly out there (by your admission), then it's "okay" for Israel to shoot through the women, children, and the elderly.

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

You are continually missing the point. Hamas does not put them there. They are there voluntarily.

The IDF, as I have shown you, is an organisation which used involuntary human shields, which is a war crime.

Further, if civilians stand in the way, an armed force is not entitled to shoot through them. That is also a war crime.

You are too biased in this issue. As it obvious that you have the misfortune of youth, which evidently means that you know everything, I shall not be engaging in further attempts to educate you on this matter - which I have followed since before you were born.

You may, of course, have the last word. However it will be unread.

[shadowyphantom.livejournal.com]

You may, of course, have the last word. However it will be unread.

You mean I'm making too much sense, and you cannot think up a logical retort.

Hamas has need of them; instead of allowing them to do something else, Hamas puts them in the line of fire.

You are the apologist for Hamas; I don't agree with the Israelis or Hamas. I'm condeming Hamas for allowing the human shields and allowing children to become part of the human shields.