The Game Changer?

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

Well, it looks like Mitt Romney has been playing the "Selective Family Album" game and kinda/sorta/oppsies forgot to tell everyone he is 1/4 Mexican.

And just did why did Mitt's father flee Mexico for the safety of the US?

In his public life Mitt Romney has said and written little about his ancestors' history in Mexico.  In one oft-repeated quote he said his family left the U.S. for Mexico to escape persecution for their religious beliefs.

In fact, Romney's great grandfather, Miles Park Romney, led that first expedition to escape not persecution but prosecution for polygamy, or what Mormons called ‘plural marriage.’

Well, this is rather awkward, from a race standpoint. So we have the Southern US. There is a strong showing of rather simple minded voters who are Crusading Voters for Christ and All Other Things White™.

Who they going to vote for. Mitt the Mex? Barrak the Magic Negro?

Or maybe that white guy Gary Johnson, the only real social liberal/fiscal conservative in the race.

God DAMN I love Southern Idiocracy.

Question: Game changer? If Mitt embraces his SOTB roots, will this swing brown skins to his camp? WILL ANYONE DEMAND TO SEE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

ETA: This just in! Cain demands to know more about this polygamy thing!

Comments

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

I've consistently argued that family members shouldn't be the focus of elections if they aren't the ones running. I've even said that about Obama's kids in this comm and you know that!

My first entry about Obama on LJ (http://mividaloca99.livejournal.com/4365.html) - not one mention of Obama's daddy.

Anything else?

[blue-mangos.livejournal.com]

I've got something! By your own logic in your recent abortion post by not speaking out against something harmful, groups or people are passively endorsing it. So I guess chessdev is right, you did endorse those statements made against Obama. Unless you are a hypocrite and your belief only applies to a certain issue.

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

One of the main reasons why I feel those who vote for the GOP have challenged intelligence.

It's the hypocrisy, stupid.

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

Then allow me to correct the minutae:

MOST CONSERVATIVES ONLINE AND ON THE TEEVEE CALLS OBAMA A SOCIALIST BECAUSE DADDY WAS ONE.

feel better?

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

""Hey Hispanic vote! I'm trying to lead the party that's been campaigning on building
a wall between our countries"

If they are voting, wouldn't the U.S. be their country?

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

"A majority of Americans of faith consider me the lowest of scum"

Even considering this is the internet, I think that's a bit hyperbolic! I mean, I doubt quite seriously that the majority of Americans of faith even know you. Not to mention out of the scores (if not hundreds) of atheists I have known over the years, I can only think of maybe two that I thought of as scum, and atheism didn't even enter the equation.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Wouldn't we have to do a bit of research to find out if his family immigrated illegally or not? (It may have been done, but I missed where that part was discussed) My understanding is that Rommney is against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. If you are for "open borders" I can see why you might disagree.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

And I always thought it was because of his voting record in the Senate....oh wait.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

You are correct, it's a lot easy not to be a hypocrite when one has no standards ;P

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

First,
Some of those voters have relatives from Mexico, and having people
campaigning on keeping your relative out tends to "sour" the vote.

Second,
Some of the anti-immigration legislation has victimized people
who were already here as citizens -- however, the loose-wording of
the law and the use of racial profiling has (again) hit voters


The point is that the voters dont exist here in a vacuum, and they see
what is happening and what is being said and how they are being caught up
in it as well...

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

I..ah....well... yeah!

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

If it's "upholding the law" -- remember the family left to avoid prosecution,
and his campaign has already talked about "drawing on their experiences of strength if he were elected"...

So if you want to use compliance with the law as a difference, that one's not going to fly here.


If disregarding the law travelling SOUTH is "alright", then again it's
inconsistent to disregard the law travelling NORTH. Right?

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

Not to mention the original Anglo residents of Texas were illegal immigrants to Texas.

See, it all gets so complicated when we start slapping labels on groups.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

Beat me to it!

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

Which votes would those be??

and when he was President, Obama had some of the most
successful Capitalists on his financial advisory board.


But HEY....why let little things like that matter, right?

[telemann.livejournal.com]

He's wasn't that liberal. Slightly left of center. Check out "Roll Call" (a data base of every Congress' vote and each Senator), they do an average of every congress and since the 1960s, Congress has been moving to the right. politikitty has mentioned this database several times to BDJ when he asserts the President Bush was no conservative (Presidents can offer their views on specific bills in Congress, even though technically they can't vote, and Bush was extremely conservative).

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

First:
Strangely enough, some of the most anti-ILLEGAL immigration people I know are Hispanics who came here the "hard" way....like in your example some does not mean most.

Second:
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal and works both ways. (please note, I do not dismiss anecdotal evidence out of hand, just saying)
While I'm not a fan of racial profiling in a vacuum. Profiling works.

You are correct very few things exist in a vacuum. Personally I would like to think that Romney is being honest with his thoughts on border control, and I think this whole deal is a tempest in a teapot; "Oh noes his grandfather fled to Mexico, he's a hypocrite because he doesn't believe in open borders". There are things I don't like about Romney but this isn't one of them :)

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Actually I was referring more to his lack of votes due to his short time in the Senate. (ya know, just snark ;))

Thanks for the link.

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

um, let's go meta. What does it indicate about his character that he has kept the Paternal Mexican side of the family 'hidden' from the public?

This is the first I've heard of it.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

I'm not quite sure how the ABSENCE of a vote either way could be
used to determine a political leaning,

but ok...it was just snark on your part, so ok...


8-i

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Excellent point...I believe it was that way for California too (fortunately I'm first generation, and I'm not THAT old that my parents actually came here after Ca was a state :)

euqal opportunity

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that people on both the right and left have been criticizing and ridiculing Romney's Mormon faith,

To be fair, I ridicule every candidates religious faith.

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

If Paul makes it, I'll vote for Paul. Just don't see the status quo allowing anyone but Senor Romney.

[rick-day.livejournal.com]

To me, his sin was being ashamed of his Paternal heritage.

He certainly didn't embrace it, yo!

[telemann.livejournal.com]

You know, the GOP "inexperienced" meme thingey. But see, that being an "outsider" of DC meme thingey can only work for specific Republicans, if Democratic candidates use it, well.... HAHA.

It's a CRAAAAZY town, that D.C.