ext_370466 ([identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-12-29 03:02 pm
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Picking sides...

I actually started writing a post on the Ron Paul's recent racist newsletter scandal and the conservative reaction to the same but jonathankorman beat me to the punch. As such I'm shifting the topic slightly to something that came up in the comments.

Now I like Ron Paul, As jonathankorman said;

He vigorously opposes American military adventurism and the military-industrial complex. He has pointed out how the financial industry has perversely benefitted from the financial crisis they created. He speaks in defense of civil liberties and has fought against attacks on them like the PATRIOT Act. He calls the War On Some Drugs the madness that it is. And often he says this stuff well.

But his response to the scandal namely, "I didn't know what was in the letters but I put my name on them anyway" has dramatically lowered my respect for him. You see, if he's telling the truth, such a decision demonstrates a high level political incompetance. What kind of fool would out-source his reputation in such a way? and what kind of fool would run for president without taking care of the skeletons in his closet first? If he did write those letters (even if he were simply playing to the crowd) he's simply dishonest and unwilling or unable to take the heat.

Niether of these qualities speak well of him, and to be frank I expect higher quality bullshit from my elected officials.

That said, I flinch internally anytime I hear someone frame an argument about politicians or policy in terms of good and evil. In my opinion you can either pick a team, or pursue the truth. When you frame an argument in such a way you've basically declared your preference for the former.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Why Marx? He was a cranky writer from Western Germany. If Marx should be shot for Stalin, the excesses of Medieval Christianity over-qualify Jesus, the Twelve Apostles, and St. Paul for the firing squad, too. Marx's ideas were in relation to his own time, and the historical pattern of Communism as a form of state-building in huge agrarian empires was the direct inverse of what was supposed to happen. Marx's ideas were not evil insofar as they were disproven by the success they attained in real life and never recovered from that paradox. A self-contradictory idea is not evil, it's just nonsense.

Now Lenin and Stalin, sure, I'd agree with that. I might suggest instead of being shot that they be hung, drawn, and quartered along with Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot.

[identity profile] jonathankorman.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Can we get a little love for Idi Amin, too?

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
No. There's a man so pathetic he's not worth the trouble of explaining precisely why.

[identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
But he was the Last King of Scotland!