ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2013-06-25 01:23 pm
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As I was Saying...

I was sorry to see that my original post was removed. Unfortunately, I was not at my desk when I was notified of the problem, so I could not alter it in time. Here is an amended version:

Remember Donny Ferguson, the Steve Stockman's aide who took the SNAP challenge and declared it a snap?

Well, it turns out he couldn't actually manage it.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/06/on-food-stamp-challenge-stockman-aide-busted-budget-but.html/

But Ferguson, who bought his food and planned his meals at the beginning of the week, ran into a problem when attempting to travel –

Foiled by TSA. Can’t bring my #SNAPChallenge food on the plane with me, and I’m not paying $50 for the privilege of losing checked luggage.

— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) June 21, 2013

His solution? Since SNAP funding breaks down to $4.50 a day, Ferguson limited himself to $9 in meals while traveling.

#snapchallenge Update, Day 5: On the road. Buying $9 of food for dinner tonight and Saturday and Sunday.

— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) June 22, 2013

The Huffington Post noticed Ferguson’s tweet and pointed out that adding $9 to the original bill of $27.58 brought Ferguson beyond the $31.50 budget.

In the end Ferguson spent an additional $8.45 — $6.70 to feed himself and the rest to buy two cans of pork and beans for a local food bank. He spent $36.03 in total, going about 14 percent over budget.


In short, he discovered that a single unforeseen circumstance can toss you off the SNAP budget.

And yes, that unforeseen circumstance could quite possibly include a SNAP recipient taking a flight. It requires no great stretch of the imagination to imagine someone on SNAP taking a bereavement flight in the event of a family emergency. (I took one last autumn, after a close relative was diagnosed with Stage 4 Cancer. Coast to coast for $10.) Nor does it break the bonds of credulity to imagine some other unforeseen event taking place that could have the effect of forcing the recipient to spend more than what is allotted by SNAP.

Not that this matters, of course, because we've reached the stage where, for many on the American right, it's about whether or not people are worthy of being fed -- not whether or not they can feed themselves adequately. We seem to be approaching a mindset similar to the old British poor laws, in which recipients were deliberately starved and humiliated on the dubious grounds that poverty is an indication of of laziness, shiftlessness, or some other moral malaise.

It is my opinion that the issue should not be whether or not we approve of everyone who gets aid. It should be whether or not they need it.

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[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously there must be, there's that whole "poverty line" we're all force fed. Let's pretend that's the baseline!

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
telemann troll!

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love to see you under the pressure that he was.

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So now what? How should the SNAP program be constructed?

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
But you are willing to proclaim that SNAP, as constructed, isn't enough right now. When is it enough to satisfy you?

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Talking about talking!

[identity profile] muscadinegirl.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally think the SNAP program is like using a can of Stop-Leak on slashed tires. These problems are not going to be solved without major changes in how economy works.

I'm too tired to discuss the matter further right now, but all I know is that for many of the people on SNAP it can be the difference between eating and not eating. SNAP isn't perfect, but it's necessary.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
As somebody who hasn't flown in over a decade, and only attended funerals by car, I was unfamiliar with such a thing existing.

I was hoping she had a magic wand to make coast to coast airfare dirt cheap--that didn't involve using my thumb....

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet that water was GOVT PAID WATER too!

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Naw, if you get to whine about the answers, we get to whine about your questions.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And you always ask the really bad questions.

[identity profile] vitsli.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure I do.
Her total lack of formal logic and inability to answer questions asked are definitely charming.

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she knows your game.

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
talking about talking!

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
hahahaha, dude is a fucking US Senator. If he can't handle pressure, get the hell outta politics.

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Easy for you to say?

[identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You and Vistili certainly have been. I agree!

[identity profile] 404.livejournal.com 2013-06-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No pithy gif at your disposal?

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